Rough Transcript of Tape
Stephen Stern, District Attorney
Note: "Ratsy" is Joseph Koniski's nickname from childhood.
Court record 6,000 in Jefferson County by James De Sabia
represented by Sinclair De Patrios attorney holds interest in the Buckeye
Land Co. in Mingo. Is that the Buckeye we're talking about in Mingo?
Stern: Is De Sabia his real name? His name is James De Sabia. Did you know that?
Earl: No, I didn't.
Stern: It must be him.
De Sabia has interest in the Buckeye Land Co.
maybe that's why they call him Buckeye. Is that him?
Earl: Yeah, probably is.
Stern: Is he paying you off? Huh, Earl?
Earl: I have to go to Mingo anyhow _______ _______
Stern: If I can figure it out...If I can figure it out for sure where he's making his drop...
Earl: If you can
figure out a pattern where he is making his drop I got a guy
who will look him up. I got a guy that will strong arm him.
Stern: Take Ratsy out right on the spot?
Earl: Ok, yeah. No problem.
Stern: Ok, if you can't get
him that way before I leave with the Ray___ ___ ___ I don't
want to blow it. The key...
Earl: Nobody knows I got it. It just fell off the ring when I tried it. You know what I mean?
Stern: Just sit back and if
it's the last thing I do I'll come back and get you.
_____ _____ _____ _____ _____ and I mean right there on the spot.
Just leave right after that happens. I mean just be gone.
Earl: I got somebody to strongarm him. I'm not worried about that.
Stern: You're not supposed
to come alone. I didn't know you were talking $30,000 as
a witness chair or I wouldn't _____ _____ _____ _____ when I had to _____ _____
When his nephew was arrested he had $37,000.
They gave the money back to Ratsy.
Stern: Is that right?
I don't understand it. What's wrong with all of you. Can't
someone on a major bust that you bought your way out of him already.
We need to set someone up, have him arrested, have him busted, and
go to a certain attorney and buy their way out.
that can't be me. I don't think, because he would
suspect me too much with stuff like that going on.
Stern: Ok, if you get a call
from that DA down there...
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