Rough Transcript of Tape
Speakers:
Stephen Stern, District Attorney
Earl George
Note: "Ratsy" is Joseph Koniski's nickname from childhood.
Stern: Municipal
Court record 6,000 in Jefferson County by James De Sabia
represented by Sinclair De Patrios
attorney holds interest in the Buckeye
Land Co. in Mingo. Is that
the Buckeye we're talking about in Mingo?
Earl: Yeah.
Stern: Is De Sabia his real name? His name is James De Sabia. Did you know that?
Earl: No, I didn't.
Stern: It must be him.
De Sabia has interest in the Buckeye Land Co.
maybe that's why they call him
Buckeye. Is that him?
Earl: Yeah, probably is.
Stern: Is he paying you off? Huh, Earl?
Earl: I have to go to Mingo anyhow _______ _______
Stern: If I can figure it out...If I can figure it out for sure where he's making his drop...
Earl: If you can
figure out a pattern where he is making his drop I got a guy
who will look him up. I got
a guy that will strong arm him.
Stern: Take Ratsy out right on the spot?
Earl: Ok, yeah. No problem.
Stern: Ok, if you can't get
him that way before I leave with the Ray___ ___ ___ I don't
want to blow it. The key...
Earl: Nobody knows I got it. It just fell off the ring when I tried it. You know what I mean?
Stern: Just sit back and if
it's the last thing I do I'll come back and get you.
_____ _____ _____ _____ _____ and
I mean right there on the spot.
Just leave right after that happens.
I mean just be gone.
Earl: I got somebody to strongarm him. I'm not worried about that.
Stern: You're not supposed
to come alone. I didn't know you were talking $30,000 as
a witness chair or I wouldn't _____
_____ _____ _____ when I had to _____ _____
Earl: Yeah.
When his nephew was arrested he had $37,000.
They gave the money back to Ratsy.
Stern: Is that right?
I don't understand it. What's wrong with all of you. Can't
we get
someone on a major bust that you
bought your way out of him already.
We need to set someone up, have
him arrested, have him busted, and
go to a certain attorney and buy
their way out.
Earl: Oh,
that can't be me. I don't think, because he would
suspect me too much with stuff
like that going on.
Stern: Ok, if you get a call
from that DA down there...
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